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general "Anyone but Obama!"
by chronkite
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(whozz@behind.us) on Aug 1, 2012 01:14:37 PM

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I can feel the little flecks of spit land on my chin and cheek as the old man grins at me after he says this.

I facepalm, as much to express my pain at his proclamation as to wipe the flecks off..a formality I know but it restores my dignity a little to do it..restores it enough that I decide to engage in a political discussion with my Johns Hopkins research engineer genius grandfather. God fucking damn it.
 
He keeps grinning and staring over his glasses at me, glancing towards my grandmother and nodding, as if he's just proved a point he was trying to make last night, or in 1983. She looks away for a second, not to avoid his gaze so much as to pine for An America That Once Was.

I'm here on a rare visit, and due to their advanced age and poor health I know it might be the last. I've already been here an hour, and we've covered all the usual topics like where am I living (Tucson two years now, jeesh..), if I have work (tattooing eightteen years now, jeesh..), and the fact that they're not as mobile as they once were (you're both ninety! JEESH!), and I'm irritated enough to take the bait.

"Anyone?" I ask my grandfather.

"Anyone! Heh!"

"Wow. You must really have a problem with the President! What exactly did he do that could elicit such a strong reaction from you?"

"That's the problem! He's done nothing!"

"Ah well, nothing's not so bad!", I say.."beats doing a lot of awful stuff like most presidents I can recall.." I'm trying to lighten the mood, but also make the point that I would *totally* prefer "nothing" when it comes to presidential action. But I press on..

"And besides, he zapped Bin Laden, ended the war in Iraq, avoided a total economic meltdown, restored a sense of decency to America in the eyes of the world, all while raising two lovely children who seem to adore him..that's not exactly nothing!"

Loooong silence, and then my grandmother says "If I hear one more time about his "plan" I'm going to drive to _____ and _______ the_______ in his ________ _____ myself!"

I am literally shocked at what she says there, and I'll spare her a visit by the men in dark sunglasses by not typing it. Mind you this is a 90 year old lady with a broken arm in a wheelchair..I have to admit I LOLed.

"OK first of all Grams no you won't. And it's literally illegal that you just said you would. I never want to hear you say anything like that again. Second of all what, you'd prefer he *didn't* have a plan?"

Granddad: "Screw his plan!"

At this point it begins to dawn on me that the problem is a deeper one.

"So you're saying that rather than have Obama in office you'd prefer *anyone*. Which includes random bums, murderers, idiots, literal clowns and figurative ones like the guy who's most likely to replace Obama, Mitt "Magic Underwear" Romney."

"Well.."

"You know Romney belongs to a church that performs retroactive posthumous baptisms, right? They also teach that black people are black because they are cursed, which brings me to my next point.."

"I don't want to-"

"No no, let's work this through. You obviously have intense dislike for the president, and when I asked you why the best you could come up with is that he has "done nothing", a handy stereotype for a black guy. He's lazy.."shiftless" is what you're saying."

"No no.."

"Is the reason you don't like Obama that he's black?"

"NOOO!! No no."

"No."

"Are you sure? I think it's because he's black. I've known you guys for forty years now and I've rarely if ever heard you express a single positive word for black people, culture, or music. The very rare occasion when you do it's laughing at some Step & Fetchit-type minstrel stuff. I think it bothers the hell out of both of you that there's a black man in the White House. And I think you know it, but can't say it."

"Well, I don't want to talk about politics." my grandfather says, getting up and shuffling toward the basement door. My grandmother sighs and looks away.

I get up and gather my things to go. The visit is obviously over.

"We weren't talking about politics." I say.

I give them each a hug, and leave.




[ Comment on this story ]


    I have no comment here
    by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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    on Aug 1, 2012 07:55:33 PM
    (#32767)
    that Lindy West didn't say better already.
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    shut up, gramps
    by hyena
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    on Aug 25, 2012 03:55:28 PM
    (#32791)
    I really don't encourage old people to insult my intelligence with their assinine opinions. When they can't even remember where they left their damn glasses (on your HEAD, you f***ing fossil) they sure as shit can't have anything useful to say about something as complex as politics.

    And I resent them reminiscing about something that happened 60 years ago, when they can't recall something that happened 15 minutes ago.

    When they start piping up, you should enthuse about how much respect and admiration you feel towards the late Dr. Kevorkian.
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    Racist old people
    by teebird15(tommydavis31@gmail.com)
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    on Sep 1, 2012 07:48:36 PM
    (#32799)
    the old are racist anyways man. As well as the republicans
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    Obama's done a lot thumbs upthumbs up
    by grandtheftcondom(grandtheftcondom@gmail.com)
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    on Oct 4, 2012 08:58:28 PM
    (#32844)
    You know, like remove our right to protest anywhere near a government official or government building (it's actually punishable by up to ten years in a federal prison). And let us not forget that now the government can detain American citizens without a trial or even officially charging them for anything. And he redefined what a "combatant" is (I believe that it is any male over the age of 16 within blast radius) which allowed his nasty fucking murder drones to appear to be a great fucking idea.

    Oh yeah, and Obamacare. I don't have much of an opinion on that one. I have healthcare now. So I guess I'm happy with it.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not an "Anyone but Obama" ass, but I figured I should clarify quickly that Obama has not done "nothing" and has in fact done a fucking lot. And not all of it is good.
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    Motherfuckin' Economy, How Does it Work?
    by Asator(loluwork@staples)
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    on Oct 17, 2012 04:52:41 PM
    (#32862)
    I don't know how you can commend someone for "avoiding a total economic meltdown" when he's only "avoided" it by default (no puns, no puns). That's like saying someone's a good guy for buying a shitty car, thrashing it until it barely runs, and selling it like it's brand new. If dude was $1.00 from defaulting our country, lost the election, and the new President spent $2.00 (thus defaulting us), you'd be the first to say the new guy fucked the economy.

    Standing by for turds.
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      The economic state of the US today
      by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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      on Oct 18, 2012 10:55:25 AM
      (#32867)
      is the result of 32 years of Reagan-inspired trickle-down nonsense which has never and will never work. Taxing the rich is not going to suddenly make them not want to make money. You know how I know? Because they want to make money! You will not suddenly see Bill Gates and Warren Buffet sharing a bong around the bonfire of their hippie microbus commune if they have to pay more taxes so cut the collapse of civilization horseshit.

      So now you only get to make millions of dollars instead of millions and millions of dollars, boo hoo, cry me a river. Rockefeller was so fucking rich he had his own tax bracket and he's still the third richest person in the entirety of human history. I THINK YOU'LL MANAGE SOMEHOW, MITT ROMNEY.

      So, yeah, considering every single Republican ever has done everything they can to 100% assfuck the economy for three fucking decades, I'd say it's pretty impressive when one guy can keep it from complete goddamn collapse.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
        Ya See I though Our Problem Wuz
        by Asator(loluwork@staples)
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        on Oct 18, 2012 05:19:28 PM
        (#32868)
        fiat currency. But that's just me.
        [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
          Yes, of course it is, Ron Paul.
          by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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          on Oct 19, 2012 09:59:16 AM
          (#32870)
          Let's go back to the gold standard! Because basing your monetary system on an arbitrary amount of pretty rocks is FUCKING GENIUS and can't POSSIBLY END BADLY. Oh wait, yes it can -- that's exactly the reason we have the system we have today.
          [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
            I acknowledge your superior grasp of politics and economics.
            by Asator(loluwork@staples)
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            on Oct 19, 2012 03:18:18 PM
            (#32871)
            I'm sorry I was such a troll earlier. I enjoy being proven wrong because it allows me the chance to grow as an individual. Thanks for taking the time to respond to me honestly and with intelligence.
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              No problem. heartpoop
              by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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              on Oct 20, 2012 01:02:25 PM
              (#32878)
              Anytime you need help, just ask.
              [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
                Actually,
                by Asator(loluwork@staples)
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                on Oct 21, 2012 09:27:35 AM
                (#32880)
                I was wondering, apropos of nothing really, but would you happen to have the chords for playing "No Ordinary Love" by Sade on the ukulele?
                [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
                  As a matter of fact I do. poop
                  by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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                  on Oct 21, 2012 11:02:38 AM
                  (#32881)
                  You'll want to float Bm, A7, Em7 to the first verse, then play that through the first measure. In the second measure of the verse switch up to Bm, A7, Bm and play that to the chorus. Then the choruses are Bm, A7, Em, floating back to the Em7 after. You can probably improv it from there.
                  [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    The (faux) patriotism of Country First
    by traci arrrrrr(traci_miller23@yahoo.com)
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    on Oct 20, 2012 08:45:29 AM
    (#32874)
    Has become the cowardice of Anybody but Obama.

    How sad for the GOP
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    Nothing but love for your racist grandparents.
    by egogg(1337@clownpenis.fart)
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    on Nov 10, 2012 03:50:35 PM
    (#32902)
    I mean that sincerely. They developed in a much different time, and have long been hardened in there beliefs. Discussing politics with someone of that age is basically pointless. A brick wall would at least have the courtesy to not respond with Faux News talking points.

    I'm glad that Geriatric, White, Gun-toting, Bible-thumping, racist paranoids are now a shrinking minority. I think this election has neatly demonstrated this fact.

    Now, If only a viable 3rd party could be generated from cast-offs from the thinking Right wing (they exist), conservative Democrats, and Libertarians, we might be able to have a president that wasn't beholden to multinational corporations.

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      Fuck. That. gold star
      by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
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      on Nov 11, 2012 10:39:14 AM
      (#32905)
      You know what else was a different time? EVERY OTHER FUCKING TIME THAT IS NOT NOW. I grew up in the height of Cold War 80s nuclear paranoia and you don't see me out here talking about how the Russians are godless heathen savages.

      Motherfucker you have had 80 YEARS to get over your shit. I am NOT giving you a free pass because "I'm old and thinking is hard!" FUCK YOU, YOU'RE A RACIST AND IF YOU DON'T ASSESS THAT SHIT RIGHT NOW YOU ARE GOING TO DIE A RACIST. What the fuck is the point of that shit? Is there some reason we should allow old people to keep on saying hurtful things? Because we want to spare THEIR feelings? Are you aware of how fucking batshit bananas that sounds?
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