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I've never understood why people act like death turns the biggest douchebags into saints.
When Whitney Houston died most of friends "mourned" her death. They shared hundreds of her songs and videos on Facebook. Which would be fine, if they actually liked Whitney Houston, which they never had. At least, not until she died.
People do this even to non-celebrities. Dying makes everyone forget how much of ass that person was.
I know we should respect the dead and all that, but sometimes it's taken too far.
The only exception are people that have been classified as "evil", like Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, and I'm sure there are others that I can't remember. They were never granted that respect. |
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for me, would be not pissing on their corpse, cutting off body parts for keepsakes, or generally doing things that are a disgrace to yourself as a human being.
Otherwise, death is no fucking achievement. There isn't a single fucking before us who couldn't die. |
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| goes far enough to not tell their grieving family what a shit-cock they were right away. The dead are only worthy of any respect they gained while living. If I had this respect for dead people in general, I would have missed out on a lot of parties in graveyards that ended in receiving drunken fellatio. |
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I didn't burst into tears over it, but I did like the 1st 2 rap albums from the 80s...
I liked them, because they rapped, but they acted like white boys and not trying to act black.
Unlike the rest, like Vanilla Ice (Ice, Ice, Baby...)... |
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Come on dude

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You know what he's talking about.
Black people don't "act black" any more than you act "white" or I act "unreliably disperse insomniac procrastinator".
However, when white male idiots try to look like they've got (what they think of as) the black coolness pinned down, the are indeed trying to act black, and utterly sucking at it like the pathetic wiggers they actually are. |
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So black people don't act black. Because that would be racist. But white people can act black. But white people don't act white. Even though the original comment was about white boys acting white. So.
We still have not defined "acting black" here, and "you know what he's talking about" isn't a proper response. Is it like, for example, acting like a dog? That I can define pretty easily. Get down on all fours, make woofing noises, stick out your tongue and pant, sniff someone's asshole.
I just want it explained to me how a person acts when he's acting black. That's all. He brought it up, so I assume he both knows and has no qualms with describing it. No? Feeling a little embarrassed about that? Okay, then let's cut to the chase where I explain why you're both racist assholes.
When you use the term "acting black" you're not just talking about a mode of behavior; you're legitimizing a point of view, that being that there's a way to "act black" in the first place. Which means you basically have to be forwarding one of two viewpoints:
1. That there is an inherent behavioral mode to being black. i.e. that activities such as wearing baggy pants, smoking marijuana and listening to music with loud beats are genetically predisposed. This would sufficiently explain why white people shouldn't do it, with the trade off of HOLY FUCKING SHIT IS THAT RACIST.
2. That there is a learned behavioral mode from existing in a black community. In which case, fuck you, because what social basis is there that says white people couldn't or shouldn't learn those same behaviors if they are exposed to them in their environments? Also, again, GOD DAMN IS THAT RACIST.
So maybe don't use terms like "acting black" in the first place, guys. |
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Okay

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| If you want to read racism into my comment, that's a right of yours I won't be denying. I understand. Some days I see boobs everywhere. |
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That's the best you've got? I'm reading racism "into" it because it's fucking there.
Racism is a tough thing. It's ubiquitous, and we've all internalized it to a degree, but to simply shuck off that you're not doing anything wrong because you don't think you're being racist is foolish and shortsighted; that's a closed loop of responsibility where what you're thinking and feeling doesn't get vetted. In contrast honestly examining yourself is scary and difficult and even the smartest and bravest people I know (for which you may definitely include yourself, for the record) have trouble with it.
This handy primer by the always fantastic Lindy West is a good place to start thinking about it. |
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Wait, let's get this straight:

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I'm all kinds of racist.
It was my comment in its context I was defending.
Am I aggressively racist? No. But I'm a blond, light-skinned, blue-eyed, tallish male, born and raised and living in South America. Without even trying, I reap the benefits of my fucking face on a daily basis. On top of that, I dress and speak in ways that grant me further privileges.
In order not to be racist, I should be actively fighting these arbitrary advantages every day, all day.
I do not; therefore I consider myself a racist.
Now, if you saw where I live and if you saw the clothes I wear and the car I don't have, you'd think "This guy is fucking delusional. Advantages? Privileges? He's white trash at best!"
And I am, from a technical standpoint I totally am, especially to American eyes I guess.
But still.
- If I step into a store past a certain hour in the evening, the storeowner will feel zero restlessness and treat me accordingly.
- If I offer my bus seat to a certain kind of old lady, I will get slightly bemused glances.
- If I apply for a job against a guy with my exact same qualifications who does not look like me, I will get the job.
- If I talk to a police officer, I will be treated a certain way. A better way.
These are just a handful of examples, and I'm sure there are dozens of other things I don't even notice.
And then there are the downright horrifying ramifications, like how my tall, fair-haired, blue-eyed kids are one and a half universe removed from their shorter, almond-eyed, cinnamon-skinned cousins in terms of chances, possibilities, and eventual livelihood. These are people who will probably not even be in contact as adults, not because we would champion such a thing, but because time will inevitably pass and the already apparent differences will become deeper and stronger, and the day will come when it's just too fucking awkward to visit anymore. It's already happening, and fuck if I know what to do about it.
These are all things I should be fighting all the time.
I was born a privileged invader in a strange land, and if I were true to my conscience, I should dedicate my life to righting the wrongs that make up 99% of my country's history. But I'm not. I don't. Instead, I dedicate my life to trying to improve my own family's situation, living conditions, and chances.
Does that make me an asshole? Hardly.
But does it make me a racist? Every day. All day. For the rest of my life. |
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but honestly, I think you can do better than the extreme either/or dichotomy there. You're not equivalent to an exploitative, Negro-abusing sharecropper just because you don't spend every waking moment actively battling Ted Nugent's mouth.
But you do make one good point. You're not an asshole. That was an unwarranted hyperbole on my part, and I apologize for that and retract it.
Srsly tho, don't say "acting black". That shit racist. |
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My asshole was self-aimed
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No wait, that's anatomically improbable: My use of the word "asshole" was aimed at myself. There.
I mean, I wasn't answering to you calling me an asshole (coming from you, I took take it as a term of endearment), I was just trying to make a point and abusing myself a bit in the proceeding, as I'm prone to do.
But in the spirit of Let's Drag This Out Beyond Reason 'Cause It's Not Like We Got Shit Else To Do Anyway, how would you describe what Steve Harvey is doing here? Isn't he exaggerating certain traits, as perceived by his own community, for comic effect?
And how about Dave Chapelle here? Isn't he changing his accent and inflection in order to better (i.e. more hilariously) portray his white friend?
How would you describe what Harvey and Chapelle are doing on those vids, other than acting a certain color?
Now, call me a reverse racist, but while I find Chapelle doing that shit hysterical, I can't help thinking that Bill Burr doing the exact opposite would be the most fucking offensive thing ever.
Jokes aside: I'm not doing this for the sake of argument. This is a subject that truly intrigues me, and I would really like to know what you think about it. |
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Lindy West, who I linked to above,
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makes this point: humor only works when it's pointed up. Black comedians making fun of how (socially higher) white people talk? Funny as Hell, and has been since Richard Pryor coined that technique. White comedians doing the same for (socially lower) blacks? PAINFULLY AWKWARD.
It's the same reason why you don't see celebrity roasts for d-list stars where Tom Cruise and Meryl Streep come out and shit all up in Gary Busey's mouth, and why Mitt Romney CANNOT EVER MAKE A JOKE ABOUT ANYONE ANYWHERE. It's fucking cruel and ridiculously inappropriate even with the best of intentions. |
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They acted like the suburbanites they are instead of acting like "they from da hood"?
Because that's what I imagine when talks about acting "white" or "black". |
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