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politics fuck the government
by hermes
gfd messages
(fuck. just fuck) on Mar 30, 2010 05:02:08 PM

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weed vs. alcohol. fuck you dumbasses
 
man, fuck this shit weed is illegal, yet nobody fuckin dies from it. you cant overdose, you cant die, it doesnt fuck up your liver, and it doesnt make you vomit everywhere or shit your pants.
why the fuck does the government think it's okay to ban that but they allow alcohol, which kills millions of people, endangers the lives of others, fucks your liver up, and other shit. WHAT THEEE FUCCCKKKKKK!

possession of alcohol vs. possession of marijuana.
reasonable vs. unreasonable
harmful vs. fun
theres no reason you should have a criminal record for possession of marijuana and being discriminated against the rest of your life. FUCk you!!!!


fuck you old pricks.


fuck you
and fuck you to those who are against weed. dont give me some bullshit response like, "you are so stupid" "weed is for losers" no fuck you, not being educated about weed is for losers.

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    no
    by zaxon(huk~)
    gfd messagesMSN
    on Mar 30, 2010 05:53:07 PM
    (#28498)
    dissemination of false informations will lead to discriminations against your person. well known established that marijuana use turns you into mexican and/or jass musician. (undesirable effects.) consult with further indoctrinations found through sub-or-extrabliminal to plot proper concourse per your own desires.
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    You are so stupid
    by murdersgalore(wacking@yourfuneral.cum)
    gfd messagesMSN
    on Apr 2, 2010 12:23:11 PM
    (#28504)
    Weed is for losers.
    [Reply to this comment]
    On the contrary...
    by DeadRedDominance(the.mastodon@gmail.com)
    gfd messagesAIMYahooMSN
    on Apr 5, 2010 11:05:37 PM
    (#28517)
    ...all the well-researched facts you can dig up from your monthly pot catalog won't hide the obviously illustrated fact here: Smoking pot makes you dumb.
    [Reply to this comment]
    Right on Goddammit!
    by Frankskanga(frankskanga@gmail.com)
    gfd messages
    on Apr 18, 2010 10:14:21 PM
    (#28585)
    Right on the fucking money Hermes. Speak on it.
    [Reply to this comment]
    You are so stupid.
    by Invictus(thethumb@michigan.com)
    gfd messages
    on Apr 19, 2010 06:58:17 AM
    (#28595)
    You must have smoked too much pot before you dropped out of school.
    [Reply to this comment]
    Are you serious?
    by DrrtEgrrT(badger59er@gmail.com)
    gfd messages
    on May 1, 2010 09:13:58 PM
    (#28618)
    I have yet to understand why the un-educated and ignorant think that they have a an opinion on anything?
    Most of the comments on this topic were pretty un-educated. Granted, the author went about getting his point across in a rather un-educated fashion but, the question remains, "Why is alcohol leagal, and marijuana isnt"?
    [Reply to this comment]
      for calling others uneducated...
      by iwan2punchurface(tylertsitri53)
      gfd messages
      on May 26, 2010 04:46:54 PM
      (#28715)
      You sure aren't very smart yourself there dumbass! You must of smoked too much pot before you went and tried to spell...oh and have an opinion. Good for you! Your a big BOY OR GIRL OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, now. like a pat...or kelly..you get what im sayin right?..no? well here, shut up. anyways hermes, pot is for winners and alcohol is obviously for alcoholics. so we win.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    It's quite simple, really.
    by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
    gfd messages
    on May 5, 2010 01:27:31 AM
    (#28633)
    Drugs that keep people locked into the economic status quo are legal. Drugs that don't are illegal.

    Take Caffeine. Gives you focus, right? You use it to get through your workday. What do you have on your day off? Alcohol, to deaden your self-loathing at wasting another year at a dead-end job. And all the while you smoke cigarettes just to give yourself the excuse to take a break.

    All totally legal.

    Now take marijuana, or LSD, or ecstasy, or mushrooms. What do these drugs do for you? The open you up to different perspectives and show you that the way you've always done things is not the only way.

    All totally illegal.

    So you see, young man, the government fucked you long before you had the capacity to say "fuck the government." All they care about is keeping you going to work in the morning, because if you don't, the whole system collapses. That's what every single piece of legislation every passed is for -- not for national identity or security or patriotism or any other such nobly hokey horseshit. It's to keep the money machine churning.
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      Right Fuckin' on man!
      by Boruma(FuckThe@government.pissedoff)
      gfd messagesMSN
      on Jan 3, 2012 06:09:33 PM
      (#31334)
      Best thing i've ever read right there.
      i typed in "FUCK THE GOVERNMENT" in google after a nasty run in with a shit credit card thing and ended up here.
      I joined afte reading this whole thread just to say FUCK YEAH and agree with you.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
      re weed
      by radioface2005(radioface2005@yahoo.com)
      gfd messages
      on Jun 3, 2012 04:42:06 AM
      (#32604)
      Amen sister, that's it in a nutshell.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    y talk shit on weed
    by smokeeveryday(uMaD.Bro)
    gfd messages
    on Jan 18, 2012 08:30:48 AM
    (#31363)
    Obviously those of you who say weed is for losers and talk shit on it have never smoked it, have never felt what it was like to be high. I wish i could blow this hit in your face then break your faces.0.0 You want to hear some thing educated listen to your asshole cuz almost everything you hear and learn in life s a bunch of shit. You believe anything are o so great government has told us you deserve the same thing they all do, to be swingin from a tree by ur neck. there just out to reach into your pockets nothing more. Its proven not by scientist but by every person out there that smokes weed, have you EVER heard someone dieing from smokeing weed noooo so all you haters suck on my bong bitches
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      I'll conciede....
      by murdersgalore(wacking@yourfuneral.cum)
      gfd messagesMSN
      on Mar 17, 2012 12:22:04 AM
      (#31795)
      ....that no one has brought forward any evidence (here at least) that smoking pot makes you stupid but I'll be damned if you didn't bring the proof that you are stupid. With writing skills like this, I'll bet you were so dense as a child your parents borrowed children to take to school.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
      dude
      by radioface2005(radioface2005@yahoo.com)
      gfd messages
      on Jun 3, 2012 04:51:46 AM
      (#32605)
      You are not helping your cause at all. An angry pothead is kind of an oxymoron and no, I am not calling you an ox or a moron. Smoke some more and calm the fuck down.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    I love how no one gave a single shit
    by The Gaborg(Sidekick in my own life)
    gfd messages
    on Mar 14, 2012 04:33:47 PM
    (#31773)
    about smokeeveryday's comment, and I'm aware I didn't use the "Reply to this comment" button. It was intentional.
    [Reply to this comment]
      Funny
      by grandtheftcondom(grandtheftcondom@gmail.com)
      gfd messages
      on Mar 15, 2012 07:09:51 PM
      (#31788)
      I just finished having a debate about smoking pot. I was about to write a bitch about it and then I saw this. Not sure if I want bitch about potheads anymore. lol
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
        Debates about smoking pot
        by The Gaborg(Sidekick in my own life)
        gfd messages
        on Mar 16, 2012 06:29:47 AM
        (#31792)
        They're only worth the effort if both parties are smoking pot while debating, but that tends to make them sort of one-sided. Not to mention increasingly non-verbal.
        [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    Nerd ass hoes Mary Jane for the pain dunce
    by Freemason36
    gfd messages
    on Mar 18, 2012 02:13:54 PM
    (#31802)
    Bitch ass niggas talking down on weed. What for nerd ass hoe ,Man they need to hurry up and legalize this shit so fuck all you people talking down on maryjane Fuck the government y'all just suck major cock. Nigga all them politicians smoke why you think Obamas lips black and he smokes blacks, but seriously people who don't smoke weed think its like fuckin lethal for ur brain bitch the number 1 killing drug are prescription pills, you will never hear about a nigga overdosing on marijuana. California relies on marijuana for there economy without it they would be fucked.and y'all bitch ass cock suckin fagits can't be talking shit if you never tried it

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      A fine specimen of marijuana usage right here. gold star
      by TheChisa(come@me.bro)
      gfd messages
      on Mar 18, 2012 09:55:48 PM
      (#31806)
      So eloquent and egalitarian!
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
        Did you understand his post?
        by grandtheftcondom(grandtheftcondom@gmail.com)
        gfd messages
        on Mar 18, 2012 10:07:09 PM
        (#31808)
        Because I only got a few keywords out of it that allowed me to get the gist of it. Most of whatever he had to say was lost amidst the pointless slang and racial slurs.
        [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
      Word up nigga
      by grandtheftcondom(grandtheftcondom@gmail.com)
      gfd messages
      on Mar 18, 2012 10:04:07 PM
      (#31807)
      Do you honestly have no clue how fucking stupid and ignorant you sound? Seriously, stop it. First of all, all you're doing is proving the anti-drug people right. Because the current census is that pot makes you dumb, and knowing about it, you fucking retards keep posting and whining about making pot legal and how it doesn't hurt you all the while broadcasting the THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD HOW FUCKING DUMB YOU ARE. Stop it. You're hurting your own cause. Of course, this does explain where all of your paranoid conspiracy theories about rappers come from. Cut the fucking drug use, go back to high school and learn how to write again, and then tell us how weed doesn't fuck up your life.
      [Reply to this comment]  [Parent]
    A MAD as HELL with a we'll thought out responce to this GD BS.
    by astralprojectee(astralprojectee)
    gfd messages
    on Jun 15, 2012 11:59:56 PM
    (#32632)
    OK I was made as hell reading about the injustices about how the government is arbitrarly regulating drugs with no sense of direction.

    So I wrote out a MAD as HELL repose to the GD unjustification of there GD actions. And this is what I ended up writing to GD do something meaningful about this Fucked up shit.

    I have a lot written here if you go through it you will find a lot of
    questions answered. I have written a lot about psychedelics in this article
    so that also includes marijuana too.

    The ultimate mind enhancer and purifier for modern society.

    You can get great energy healing from informed, proper, moderate use of mind
    tools known as psychedelics. Moderate, informed, use of pure MDMA is one of the
    best psychedelics in the world for healing. MDMA will be used in psychotherapy
    no doubt in 10 years after MAPS gets it FDA approved. Thank evolution for
    organzations like them. This is going to revolutionize psychology and
    psychiatry.

    "Research > MDMA-Assisted Psychotherapy
    http://www.maps.org/research/mdma/
    MAPS is undertaking a 10 year, $10 million plan to make MDMA into an
    FDA-approved prescription medicine, and is currently the only organization in
    the world funding clinical trials of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy. For-profit
    pharmaceutical companies are not interested in developing MDMA into a medicine
    because the patent for MDMA has expired. Companies also cannot profit from MDMA
    because it is only administered a limited number of times, unlike most
    medications for mental illnesses which are taken on a daily basis."


    OK, I know a lot of you are like wait a minute I heard of people jumping out of
    window's taking LSD and getting really bad trips. OK wait a minute MDMA does not
    cause ego death like LSD and other psychedelics but it does do mind-manifesting
    and give you Ecstasy or what a religious person might say a encounter with the
    divine. LSD does mind manifesting. But it can also manifest bad feeling, beliefs
    and thoughts in your subconscious mind. So LSD can manifest these bad thoughts,
    beliefs and feelings that you have and magnifies them. That is why LSD can give
    you a bad trip. But it's meant to be a lesson if it can be done properly with
    the guidance of a therapist. That is why it should be in the context of a
    psychotherapist. So the psychotherapist is there to ground a guide the patient
    through the really tough unconscious feelings that have been suppressed ever
    sine they were raped or whatever their hiding. The idea is that a psychedelic is
    used to help a patient find really bad feelings and feel them. In other words
    they have a bad trip. But the sitter is there to comfort them through it. It is
    hard it is tough but if you can feel the pain and fear while trying to guide the
    energy into new channels you can make a way for the energy to move out and clear
    that space for healing to take place. If you can't feel the negative feelings
    and redirect the energy then you are just burying the very thing you need to
    heal. And who knows how many incarnations you will have before you get hid of
    that blockage. I will say this. All meditational religions know that the best
    place to grow is this earthly physical existence. And they say it's a rare one.
    So use your time wisely on this earth and clear all the energy you can with
    psychedelics today. You don't even have to break the law to get a real genuine
    psychedelic experience.

    Go to herbs.maxforum.org they can show you and tell you how to take a
    combination of herbs and supplements to get real psychedelic experiences
    legally.

    OK let me point out that psychiatry does not know how to deal with really bad
    trips in psychedelic use. So that is one of the reasons it was banned in the
    first place. What would happen is the person would be under acute psychosis and
    the doctor would panic and have them sedated which only servers to lock the
    negative state in place so no release of the negative energy can take place. And
    the Psychotic person goes to a mental institution some times for years. All this
    could have been worked through had it been done by a very knowledgeable MD about
    psychedelics. Stanislav Grof is one such person.

    THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THE MOST CRITICAL OF LSD IN THE 60 WERE THE PEOPLE LEAST
    FAMILIAR WITH IT.

    Everyone has unconscious feelings that manifest and create problems and stress.
    That is unless you are enlightened.

    OK to give you a back ground on why psychedelics is so good for the psyche. The
    reason why is that our nervous system has evolved to deal with stress in
    primitive ways. This is self evident when you see soldiers coming back from war
    with PTSD. They can't deal with the stress and end up with lots of mental
    problems.

    Psychedelics have been used by us for a long time in our evolution, way before
    organized religion was made. It is too hard to see things as energy because of
    our genetic make up. Our minds can process things much better if we can see and
    move energy in our nervous system. Enlightened masters can see and move energy
    in their bodies and nervous system. This allow them to prevent energy form being
    trapped and stuck in their nervous system. We can't do that. At least not like
    them. And most of us don't have the time to meditate and release pent up energy.

    OK weather you agree with what I just said or not this we do know. If soldiers
    go to war, in all likely hood they will come back with PDSD or some mental
    problem, if they were under much stress at all. Our minds and are not meant to
    deal with that kind of stress. I know many people that can't deal with the
    stress of life and a job much less war. We need something to fix this. If it's
    not soldiers at war it's gangs at home or raped victims or abused children. We
    need something that can help us release that pent up energy. If that pent up
    energy that is not released it will cause disease, depression, anxiety, and all
    kinds of problems. These poor soldiers have to release that energy before it
    their life goes down the drain. Many soldiers are coming back from war with PDSD
    and committing suicide. The only mind tool that I and many other know can help
    these poor souls is MDMA psychotherapy. Done preferably by a doctor but there
    are many stories on the Internet of people using MDMA from the street in a home
    session of psychotherapy with great results.

    We experience terrible and even ordinary things that can traumatize us for days
    sometimes years. Most of the time the trauma is so subtle we don't even notice
    there is a psychological problem manifesting. Like depression anxiety and all
    other similar problems. Our nervous system has not evolved the mechanisms to
    deal with depression and anxiety many times. And almost all the times we don't
    have the ability to deal with deep pain or hurt or trauma. Therefore you must
    use our God/nature given rescues on this earth to help your
    spirit/being/character. You body might seem just fine but if you take certain
    psychedelics they will show you and teach you how to deal with all the stuff in
    your past that has been buried. And current things too.

    Your body and mind are not perfect in showing us things buried deep in our
    unconscious. Some of them painful, some shameful, some depression, anger, fear
    and neutral and then good feelings to. But it's the bad ones that stick out and
    can make like hard. And the ones that are dormant are just waiting to rear there
    ugly head when they are energized to do so. Weather that is in this life time or
    another is another question. Preferably you should have meditation to help you
    do this. But our society is so busy that it's almost impossible to get in enough
    time to really meditate. That is why psychedelics are so important in our
    society. You must use what God/nature gave us to deal with those things.


    The best solution for our busy world is to take psychedelics. Stanislav Grof, a
    medical doctor studied LSD for 16 years and other psychedelics. He know quite a
    lot about psychedelics. He has written many books. Parapharzing what he said is
    that the psychedelic experience shows you what is in your own mind. It shows
    you the contents of your own mind. But it does this in a different way than the
    way you normally experience reality. Psychedelics open the subconscious mind so
    that you can effectively deal with pent up emotions that cause problems now and
    later times.

    Paraphrasing what Stanislav Grof, M.D. said is that, just as a telescope is used
    to observe the the stars and learn about astronomy, so a psychedelic is use to
    observe the mind and learn about psychology. Most importantly ones own
    psychology. Also just as a biologist uses a microscope to view and learn the
    biology, likewise a psychedelic is used to view the mind and learn and correct
    the mind. So in the end the tool most important for psychological growth are
    psychedelics.

    The only other thing that is just as effective at helping heal the soul and
    psychology at the level psychedelic can is meditation. At least to the best of
    my knowledge.

    Victims of stress and life can attain lasting deep healing in the most difficult
    cases with psychedelics. Not this should only be done by professionals. People
    that know how to deal with mental breakdowns in a bad trip. But it is possible
    to turn bad trips into deep healing if someone is present to guide and direct
    the experience for healing.

    There are other kinds of therapy that might come close to what psychedelics can
    do for the mind. But I seriously doubt how effective they would be for certain
    people. Like Holotropic Breathwork or rebirthing-breathwork.


    San pedro cactus aka Echinopsis pachanoi. It has been used for thousands of
    years if not hundreds of thousands of years in ceremonies for healing the mind
    by indigenous people. There are many psychedelics that are used throughout the
    world by indigenous people to help them work out there emotions and beliefs of
    the subconscious mind. San pedro is actually similar to MDMA since they are both
    empathogens.

    For more
    Google: psychedelic psychotherapy

    and

    psychedelic truth

    and

    psychedelic spiritual

    This is a good one http://www.maps.org/research/tenlessons.html

    This gives an in depth look at how to do psychedelic psychotherapy.
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hPCjQ2qK7bgJ:www.psychedeli\
    cpsychotherapy.com/content.php%3F122-journeyworkers-guide+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl\
    =us&client=opera

    Iboga is currently be used as a new treatment of addictions like heroin, meth,
    cocaine with great success. I know it's going to spread to the US in the next
    20-30 years and it will transform addiction treatment.

    You can Google: "Iboga changed OR saved my life"

    Peter Jennings - Ecstasy Rising Documentary (Full length upload)
    http://youtu.be/DNpFqJcJcps

    Inside LSD
    http://youtu.be/tv6RFRF8A2Q

    I found these to be well written.

    http://www.psychedelic-library.org/thermenu.htm

    I know Stanislav Grof has had 16 years of psychedelic research as a MD. He has
    written many books.

    The war on drugs has been an absolute failure. That is a another topic.

    According to scientific research done by the BBC, which wanted to focus on the
    science of the safety of drugs. They found alcohol tobacco are worse for you
    than LSD, MDMA, steroids, and marijuana.

    Top 20 Most Dangerous Drugs 1/4
    http://youtu.be/onsq09bXdi4

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42718000/gif/_42718419_drugs_graph2_416.gi\
    f

    I can see a time coming in the next 30 50 years when many psychedelics will be
    used in psychology and psychiatry to help heal the world.


    Second Part: Note this is a modified post I made somewhere else.

    Psychedelics, drugs and the truth with facts.

    Also if you want the evidence. If you want the hard evidence of the truth about
    drugs you have to look at this.

    According to scientific research study done by a group of independent scientists
    and funded by an independent organisation (Centre for Crime and Justice Studies
    (UK).). And lead by noted professor David Nutt which at the time was serving
    the us government on an advisory panel to give advice on the science of drugs to
    politicians. They wanted to focus on the science and the safety of drugs in this
    study. They relied on facts not political BS and bias opinions. They wanted to
    study and show which drugs were actually really harmful. Which ones actually
    caused damage. They found that politicians were arbitrarly making decisions on
    drugs that had no bases in science and didn't make any sense in many cases. They
    found alcohol tobacco are worse for you than LSD, MDMA, steroids, and marijuana.
    And David Nutt also found horse back riding is more dangerous than taking MAMA
    AKA ecstasy.

    So at the time the study was being processed and published by the lancet journal
    which is a mainstream scientific journal. And David Nutt was pushing for better
    laws than the current system which was a bunch of arbitrary laws on drugs that
    made no sense. The politician sacked (fired) David Nutt soon after he appeared
    on TV. Soon after 5 more scientists resigned in protest of how the politician
    was acting. Now he has a lot of press about it so he is getting the word out
    about what is actually harmful compared to other drugs.

    This shows the complete lack of understanding and science in drug regulation by
    politicians. This is like the wild wild west of make what ever law you want when
    it comes to regulating drugs. Lets not look at the science lets just make our
    own rules. I can maybe understand this years ago. But the politicians were given
    the science and they rejected it.

    This remands me what is happening at the FDA of the advisory panel of scientists
    being ignored by the FDA regulators consistently, ignoring the scientists and
    the science of what they are recommending. The scientists blew the whistle. Then
    the FDA is watching their emails. Now the scientists are suing the FDA. What the
    hell is going on. We need researches and f**ken scientists running our political
    system, not a bunch of incompetent and bias politicians.

    OK so back to the study.

    Here is a film that they did.
    Top 20 Most Dangerous Drugs 1/4
    http://youtu.be/onsq09bXdi4

    http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42718000/gif/_42718419_drugs_graph2_416.gi\
    f


    Scientists want new drug rankings
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6474053.stm

    Drug harms in the UK: a multicriteria decision analysis
    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2810%2961462-6/fu\
    lltext

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2011/jan/10/david-nutt-drugs-polic\
    y

    Sacked government drug adviser David Nutt talks to Sky News
    http://youtu.be/bCChf2WHNE4

    U.K Drugs Decriminalization ? -David Nutt, Richard Branson Call For Research &
    Understanding
    http://youtu.be/sqMZzQkP9kM

    Sacked government drug adviser David Nutt talks to Sky News
    http://youtu.be/bCChf2WHNE4

    Howard Marks Interviews David Nutt On The Dangers of Drugs & Drug Policy Reform
    (November, 2010)
    http://youtu.be/pWQaJZkDaB8


    David Nutt Drugs Row Sacked Professor Predicts More Resignations In Row Over
    Drug Advisory Panel
    http://youtu.be/p-B3TkFdgA8

    Howard Marks Interviews David Nutt On The Dangers of Drugs & Drug Policy Reform
    http://youtu.be/pWQaJZkDaB8

    professor nutt newsnight
    http://youtu.be/SUmAAMVdcok

    U K Govt Sack Drugs Advisor Over Opinion of Alcohol & Tobacco vs Cannabis &
    Ecstasy
    http://youtu.be/gwJ87LEsoec

    Interview with Prof David Nutt (SSDP UK Conference 2009)
    http://youtu.be/3mFDM54ptfo

    Professor Nutt - Alcohol Effects on Brain http://youtu.be/BbUl8jVRezA

    Out of the Hot Seat - Professor David Nutt (1 of 2) http://youtu.be/ppGkl6JPZlI

    FBI director gets schooled on marijuana
    http://youtu.be/SY0TQ1uOn3k


    Get this, the people that funded the study was from "Centre for Crime and
    Justice Studies (UK)"

    Here is there website.
    Centre for Crime and Justice Studies (UK)
    http://www.crimeandjustice.org.uk/


    So I hope we have learned something today. Psychedelics are not the evil
    villains that these people would have you believe. Once it's actually put into
    the view of science we can see the truth.

    Here are a list of psychedelics you can familiarise yourself with today.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_psychedelic_drugs



    Third Part: This is a modified post I had written.
    I want to talk about something that will spark some debate here probably. I want to inform you about Cold fusion or better known as LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). This is a super cheap clean energy that is probably coming to the world soon. I must say that it very well could be that there are two possibly three different types of reactions going on here and that we still need to investigate what is going on to find the mechanism of action. LENR is actually just a more broader term than Cold Fusion. So before you say anything and start killing this idea before seriously considering what has been going on. So please get updated on what is actually going on and been going on for a while now. I have been following cold fusion for well over a year almost every day to every week. This is the game changer that will usher in a new age of abundance, technology, and so much more. I am a futurist so I ultimately think that science will pave the way for a Utopian society in maybe 10,000 years but that is another subject.

    I know some of you are probably thinking "yeah right". We'll there is a man by the name Andrea Rossi that has opened a plant to sell what he calls E-cats. E-Cat stands for Energy Catalyzer. He has just sold a 1 MW plant with E-cats. He sold it to an unnamed customer this Oct 28. They did a test of the 1 MW plant and it ran in self sustain mode for 5.5 hours and made 479 Kilowatts of heat. For you who don't know how much that is, it would be 479,000 watts.

    What are E-Cats? They are a new kind of energy generating devices which generate at least 6 times more energy going out than what is going in. In fact Rossi has just said that he has reached an even much higher temp of 600 Celsius. It works from an unknown process by fusing hydrogen and Nickel at low temperatures with a secret catalyst. This is otherwise known as Cold Fusion or better known as Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. In the end the Nickel converts to copper. This creates a lot of excess energy. You can even run it self sustain mode where almost all the energy going in is nothing substantial.

    There seems to be indication that the unnamed customer is the US Navy. The US Navy has been interested in cold fusion for a while and a man identified as Paul Swanson of the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems unit was present at Rossi's October 28 test. He has done a lot of work with cold fusion in the past for the US Government. John Brandon apparently contacted Swanson who refused to comment. I would think that if Swanson was not apart of it he would have denied it. But he didn't.

    Rossi has consistently repeated that he is selling 1 MW E-cats to a military entity.

    There has been little to no coverage of the E-Cat from the mainstream media. Though a few articles have started to surface lately from FOX News, MSMBC, Wired, and others.

    In Andrea Rossi's October 6, 2011 demonstration he patched up many holes that the critics had for him. The test was for 12 hours while 30 scientists, engineers and journalist from around the world documented it. In the end the E-Cat produced much more energy going out than what was going in.

    This is a game changer in a big way. The real potential though will not be the actual device it self, but in understanding the physics behind it. Once we do that we can make energy to cheap to meter. Which will usher in a Utopian age. This will lead to an end to pollution and poverty and hopefully blind faith. Though the E-Cat does not solve all of our problems it will solve and help to solve many of them.

    The two main theories that are out there about what is going on is wisdom Larson theory and cold fusion or transmutations of atoms at low temperatures without bad radiation. Both theories could be true.


    Then there is Defkalion from Greece. They say they will be selling products this July that output some 45 KW. Selling date could be extended. I know how fast they want to get the product to market and I realize that it can easily be extended to much longer than that. But not over a year probably.
    Defkalion - Green Technologies

    There are some other companies that have just decided to come out. One of them is Blacklight they have been around for a long time so I kind of question them but they say they will be making a product to sell next year I think it was. They have had a lot of money to do there research. 60 million But they have not come out with a product for many years. But they do have some 6 PhDs (some from prestigious universities some very very skeptical) that have looked at there research and come back with a good report and recommend more research. cold fusion technology.

    www.blacklightpower.com

    The good news to this GD BS is there is probably a solution. It comes in the form that is not even on your radar. This is something I wrote about not only the GD BS that is going on with the drugs but also all the other Fucked up things that will be fixed by the solution. Here it is.

    I want to talk about something that will spark some debate here probably. I want to inform you about Cold fusion or better known as LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions). This is a super cheap clean energy that is probably coming to the world soon. I must say that it very well could be that there are two possibly three different types of reactions going on here and that we still need to investigate what is going on to find the mechanism of action. LENR is actually just a more broader term than Cold Fusion. So before you say anything and start killing this idea before seriously considering what has been going on. So please get updated on what is actually going on and been going on for a while now. I have been following cold fusion for well over a year almost every day to every week. This is the game changer that will usher in a new age of abundance, technology, and so much more. I am a futurist so I ultimately think that science will pave the way for a Utopian society in maybe 10,000 years but that is another subject.

    I know some of you are probably thinking "yeah right". We'll there is a man by the name Andrea Rossi that has opened a plant to sell what he calls E-cats. E-Cat stands for Energy Catalyzer. He has just sold a 1 MW plant with E-cats. He sold it to an unnamed customer this Oct 28. They did a test of the 1 MW plant and it ran in self sustain mode for 5.5 hours and made 479 Kilowatts of heat. For you who don't know how much that is, it would be 479,000 watts.

    What are E-Cats? They are a new kind of energy generating devices which generate at least 6 times more energy going out than what is going in. In fact Rossi has just said that he has reached an even much higher temp of 600 Celsius. It works from an unknown process by fusing hydrogen and Nickel at low temperatures with a secret catalyst. This is otherwise known as Cold Fusion or better known as Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. In the end the Nickel converts to copper. This creates a lot of excess energy. You can even run it self sustain mode where almost all the energy going in is nothing substantial.

    There seems to be indication that the unnamed customer is the US Navy. The US Navy has been interested in cold fusion for a while and a man identified as Paul Swanson of the US Navy's Space and Naval Especially once cold fusion LENR comes into the picture.arfare Systems unit was present at Rossi's October 28 test. He has done a lot of work with cold fusion in the past for the US Government. John Brandon apparently contacted Swanson who refused to comment. I would think that if Swanson was not apart of it he would have denied it. But he didn't.

    Rossi has consistently repeated that he is selling 1 MW E-cats to a military entity.

    There has been little to no coverage of the E-Cat from the mainstream media. Though a few articles have started to surface lately from FOX News, MSMBC, Wired, and others.

    In Andrea Rossi's October 6, 2011 demonstration he patched up many holes that the critics had for him. The test was for 12 hours while 30 scientists, engineers and journalist from around the world documented it. In the end the E-Cat produced much more energy going out than what was going in.

    This is a game changer in a big way. The real potential though will not be the actual device it self, but in understanding the physics behind it. Once we do that we can make energy to cheap to meter. Which will usher in a Utopian age. This will lead to an end to pollution and poverty and hopefully blind faith. Though the E-Cat does not solve all of our problems it will solve and help to solve many of them.

    The two main theories that are out there about what is going on is wisdom Larson theory and cold fusion or transmutations of atoms at low temperatures without bad radiation. Both theories could be true.


    Then there is Defkalion from Greece. They say they will be selling products this July that output some 45 KW. Selling date could be extended. I know how fast they want to get the product to market and I realize that it can easily be extended to much longer than that. But not over a year probably.
    Defkalion - Green Technologies

    There are some other companies that have just decided to come out. One of them is Blacklight they have been around for a long time so I kind of question them but they say they will be making a product to sell next year I think it was. They have had a lot of money to do there research. 60 million But they have not come out with a product for many years. But they do have some 6 PhDs (some from prestigious universities some very very sceptical) that have looked at there research and come back with a good report and recommend more research. cold fusion technology.

    I see a time in the next 10-20 years when everyone will own an E-Cat and will change the powers be and give power back to the people, were it belongs. Bill Gates and Steve Jobs did it. Many don't know Steve Jobs was a hippie and took LSD at least once. He said it helped him in his life.

    I have talked to my doctor which is a man about this and he is really interested. His wife is a patent attorney.

    So in the end this is either the greatest hoax on earth or the greatest technological advance since fire. We'll see.

    Good links on this subject.

    60-Minutes Piece on Cold Fusion
    http://youtu.be/JyNn_Z6wCIk

    Let me just say that before you read anything from PES WIKI I don't like or agree with some of the things Sterling Alan posts or talks about on Pes Wiki. He is the president of Pes wiki. but it's the single most comprehensive site on all super cheap energy technologies. So I use his site.

    Basic info, some outdated.
    http://peswiki.com/i...usion_Generator

    All the news for the E-Cat, recent and old.
    http://peswiki.com/i...ssi_Cold_Fusion

    There are a ton of blogs covering this. Here is the thing many have replicated Nickel Hydrogen before. Here is a list of 16 replicators of LENR and nickel hydrogen cold fusion technology.
    http://nickelpower.o...cember-30-2011/

    Even now NASA is talking about LENR. They have come out with 2 videos recently too.
    NASA Touts the Potential of LENR
    http://youtu.be/-Z5wF69jFJs

    LENR Testing at NASA Langley
    http://youtu.be/OtHR1NCzeKU

    UNCLASSIFIED Defense Intelligence Agency Defense Analysis Report on LENR
    http://www.lenr-canr...Btechnology.pdf

    This is very interesting. Rob Duncan was the guy on 60 minutes that checked out Energetics Technologies, for their cold fusion claim.

    Duncan talks 'cold fusion' at Saturday Science
    http://www.columbiat...turday-science/

    Billionaire helps fund MU energy research
    http://www.columbiat...nergy-research/

    This is really good piece done by Wired.
    What If Cold Fusion Is Real?
    http://www.wired.com...ldfusion_pr.htm

    New Cold Fusion Evidence Reignites Hot Debate (includes evidence by the US Navy for CF)
    http://spectrum.ieee...ites-hot-debate

    'Cold Fusion' Rebirth? New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source
    http://www.scienceda...90323110450.htm

    Cold Fusion Fire From Water - My Energ CZ News!
    http://youtu.be/22H8U0ZsChI

    UNCLASSIFIED Defense Intelligence Agency Defense Analysis Report on LENR
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CE8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Flenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FBarnhartBtechnology.pdf&ei=DSvcT7XTJYHi2gWz4_nBDQ&usg=AFQjCNHuTO59knYuzLUocHeeNYI_Acxyng&sig2=zRnIXYrvKY5L4zoXnf5TmQ

    So in the end we will see. I personally think that with all the companies that say they are going to be selling products now, I doubt most, much less all of them will fail or are frauds. There has been research for years into Cold Fusion/LENR in small and big companies and even governments. Many reporting high some very high amounts of excess heat and in some cases some 10,000 times more energy going out than in. They have not been able to consistently make heat, every time until now. So I say, It's about time someone finely figures it out. In the end I can't say with 100 percent certainty that Cold fusion is true. I do personally think that cold fusion is probably 99.99 percent true and that Rossi and Defkalion are at about 98 percent possibility that it's true. There are just too many replicators of of nickel hydrogen for it all just to be a fraud or miss-measuring. If it is a fraud it will be the biggest fraud of all history. With 3 companies bringing to market a cold fusion product from nickel hydrogen to the world within the next 1 to 2 to 3 years depending. Lets not forget all the other companies that say they are coming out with products. Everyone wants to sell there product now since they see other companies coming getting ready to for cold fusion product production.

    If all this is true and I bet it is it will allow us to carry out our hearts desires with anything we want. We will be about to study anything about reality and have the money to fully investigate reality even if it's to confirm or debunk even things like the paranormal and the like. I know there will be some very surprising things to come even for myself.

    For those hard headed purely logical thinkers here without any scene of possibility and wonderment that it might be true. I will not be surprised if Neutrinos go faster than light too. LOL just kidding I just had to say that. You must bend to the fact that many have been reporting excess heat for years in hundreds of labs around the world even before Pons and Fleishman and especially after. It's about time we have a consistently working device. And just in the nick of time to save the world from itself.

    The thing is is that cold fusion is different in that it is not consistent every time but they can consistently get excess heat at the most 70 percent of the time. Science has been ignoring the excess heat that does happen and consistently at the most 70 percent of the time and just blowing it off and saying they are miss-measuring. I say bullshit. I say your bias. It does not matter it's science if there is a probably of even 10 percent of the time you get excess heat. you just need to study it more. I'm a realists and think logically but I am also a humanist and I believe that most people don't lie or are frauds.

    If all this Cold Fusion stuff is true it will be the job of scientists and Realists to find a way a method to prevent this from happening again. I feel like we have wasted 20 years almost of super cheap energy for our benefit. We have to make a way in our thinking and understanding of science to not let this happen again. So if this is all true, we as a nation of thinkers will have to find a way to prevent this. Since we just wasted 20 years of mainstream cold fusion research due to the current scientific method and or the hard headed scientists denying cold fusion. On top of all this it's much harder to over miss-measure. I can understand under miss-measuring much easier. These are easy measurements to make.

    In all honesty I know this thread can only go so far until we have proof of all these claims. I mainly just wanted to let all you know about the what is going on with cold fusion, to be informed about what I think will probably happen.

    Thanks for your time.

    Part four:

    I'm pissed too but the only answer to this is to actually do things that work to help the situation. That includes being proactive and fighting for you GD rights. I regularly get emails from a pro marijuana organization things I can do to voice my opinion to senators and contact them and tell them they need to legalize marijuana and why they need to legalize it. There is usually a pretext written to help with that. You can do that here.

    http://www.drugpolicy.org/

    Or Google: marijuana "take action"

    This is the first site that comes up. It's probably a good one.
    www.mpp.org/takeaction/

    I know it's tough but sooner or later government will get it because of people like me and others that want to deregulate and decriminalize marijuana. Even Pat Robertson wants to see marijuana decriminalized.

    To prove my point in Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel backs decriminalizing 15 grams of marijuana. Which is almost a hand full I think.

    Emanuel backs decriminalizing small amounts of marijuana
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-emanuel-backs-decriminalizing-small-amounts-of-marijuana-20120615,0,691997.story

    As far a the future and marijuana. Well truth and reality are constantly being distilled and refined in the evolution of life. Because reality will always be shown to be self evident. There is no way to prevent this or stop this from happening. From the dawn of time reality and truth are constantly being distilled. It's a very slow process. But the day will come when pot is legal and psychedelics are legal. And many other truths will come to the consciousness of the people. We are evolving and it's a slow process. But sooner or later all the old people that are set in there ways will die and a new generation will rise up with a better version than their parents and it will change. Especially once cold fusion LENR comes into the picture.

    A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. ~ Max Planck

    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
    ~ Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 - 1860)

    Science advances one funeral at a time. ~ Max Planck

    "Yes my friends, I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.... When the deposits of coal are exhausted we shall heat and warm ourselves with water. Water will be the coal of the future."
    ~ Jules Verne, The Mysterious Island 1870
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      Whoa.
      by grandtheftcondom(grandtheftcondom@gmail.com)
      gfd messages
      on Jun 16, 2012 01:28:43 AM
      (#32634)
      So that was really long for a comment. Why didn't you just post this as a rant instead?

      (Or better yet use it as an Op-ed for a newspaper, since GFD really isn't the place for this.)

      Otherwise, I really enjoyed reading this.
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    I concur
    by WhoCares
    gfd messages
    on Mar 26, 2013 04:24:53 PM
    (#32954)
    People assume that because you smoke weed your dumb and or a loser.
    People ask why i defend weed so much, i say because there's nothing wrong with it.
    I like weed.
    End of story.
    For those of you who think its bad, educate yourselves and quit being ignorant fuckers!
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